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January 06, 2004

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Alicia

I always do organic milk and butter, and fortunately we can get that in mainstream grocers down here. For organic veggies I do have to go to special stores, but places like Central Market carry everything so there is no need to go to another store for, say, light bulbs. I do most of what is on your list organic, but not the peanut butter. I don't eat enough to matter, but I do have a really hard time with the mixing.

I can recommend soynut butter. Very tasty!

jon

Organic peanut butter is very different. I'm still not used to it, so I just don't eat it anymore.

That's really strange that mainstream grocers don't stock organic veggies. Over here it's a big selling point by the big supermarket chains.

Dale

Sigh, if I keep reading your blog, I may just change my eating habits, and I don't know if I could abide by that :)

Wendy

Dale ... I'm even worse in person!
Jon ... I think consumers in the UK are a lot more demanding - I'm under the impression that GM foods are all labelled there and people will actually protest and demand these types of thing. Canadians are very apathetic about these kinds of things. We have some organic in regular stores but not a lot and there is no labelling of GM foods - I think you have to go organic to avoid them. Or find a small independent grocery store who refuses to stock anything unless they know it is not GM - luckily I have such a store nearby but its expensive to shop there - you have to pick and choose.

Cindy

I've tried organic oatmeal -- and felt it tasted like what I'd imagine eating cardboard tastes like ... but I suppose it's like anything else, you grow accustomed to the difference in taste and I'm sure it's much better for you in the long run.

stacie

If you like waffles you have to try Vans all natural organic soy-flax waffles.They have 1200mg of omega-3,no trans fats,yeast free,dairy free,eggless,high in soy isoflavones and yet they are so good.Very tasty.Im just getting into organic food and would love to learn more about it.How can you tell what foods are inportant to buy,cause i sure can't but it all its so expensive?Thanks

Paul

I think organic food is a joke. What where you all eating prior to this Organic fad? Same shit we ate back then. I would like to see an extensive study with eating organic vs. non organic. Its funny that you all organic freaks are being take for a ride. Sucking your wallet dry for the same food and nutrient value as the next item on the shelf. Bunch of suckas!!!!

Tanya

Bread without yeast can be a sad thing-- but you can make your own bread using yeast and organic flour, and that's awesome. It doesn't take as long as you'd think, especially if you have a dough hook attachment on your mixer-- but I always do all of it by hand.

elizabeth

I always hated non-organic carrots when I was a kid. Once I tasted organic ones I fell in love with them. They are much sweeter than the others, and besides the taste they can even prevent diseases. I think that buying organic foods is worth the cost.

karina

Organic Granny Smith Apples most definately taste much better;simply the thing ever:divine!

karina

Organic Granny Smith Apples most definately taste much better;simply the best thing ever:divine!

steven

guys, i am a non-organic farmer, and i am very educated about these foods. basically heres the deal on them. organic food makes more money for us farmers, hands down, but im curious about if you know about the kinds of things they substitute chemicals for on organic farms. trace elements of chemicals are surely found on non-organic foods, but the problem is, they measure these chemicals in PPM (parts per million), and usually are EXTREMELY LOW. did you know that city water is also measured in PPM for many of the same chemicals? not only so, but did you know that chlorine is a chemical found in some non-organic foods? funny how every time you go swimming in a personal or city pool youre subjecting your entire body to nearly 50 times the amount of chlorine you would find anywhere else? every time you put some kind of product in your hair, every time you spray weeds in your yard, and many other things you do, you are subjecting your body to much more (and a wider range) chemicals than you would ever find in non-organic food. many people are fooled by the fad of organic food. they think if they buy organic carrots, and they tasted better than non organic ones theyve had in the past, its because theyre organic. im sorry to say, but this is not the case. every carrot you buy is likely to have come from a different field. this means that depending on the watering patterns, the ground its grown in, the nutrients put on the crop (whether organic or non), and other things can all affect how one single carrot will taste. the USDA has researched this issue, and i quote them: "no conclusive evidence shows that organic food is more nutritious or better tasting than conventionally grown food. and the USDA does not claim that these products are safer or more nutritious." some of the things farmers must spray on organic farms are just disgusting. pig guts, cow guts, somehow processed to where it can be put on, really stinks. i mean really it smells horrible. now i want to explain something. i dont want to demean organic food in the way i might be sounding. there is an organic orchard right next to my non organic orchard, and both grow the same type and strain of pacific gala apples. they are even on the same rootstock, and the same age. i can tell you that neither tastes better or worse, and the farmer that grows them is happy that he makes more money for them, but completely admits he cannot taste the difference between ours and his. bottom line: dont spend all your extra pennies on organic food, it is literally NOT more healthy for you. you might think it tastes different, but thats all because of location and growing techniques. if you really think its that different, grow a few of the same things, and do one organic and one non, take equally care of them, and see what you think then. :)

john smith

steven i agree 100% with your analysis. some people these days just see the labels on food and are told what is healthier for them; as a result, they are fooled into buying such items as organis foods. can you really tell the difference between an organic carrot and a non-organic one. do you think non-organic farmers are trying to poison you by killing bacteria im sure that non-organic farmers eat the food they make. don't want to be a jerk, but some people get paranoid. water pipes in older houses contain rusting iron, which is dispered in your water supply. if you are going to make a heathier life, do some research.thanks.

barb kolb

John and Steven you are both right, you can't just pick out one piece of fruit or a vegetable and make a blanket statement about organic vs. non-organic. But you have to start somewhere. Our bodies are already subjected to hundreds of toxins we can not control, but when picking our food and water we can make better choices. I have a few friends that feel like it's a losing battle so why bother to try, but I would rather take the approach that I will try to control what I can. I am fortunate enough that I can afford to choose safer and sometimes more expensive brands of body lotion, deoderant and shampoo. And I try to do the same with the food and water I serve my family. Maybe I'm just hedging my bet. But there seems to be so many people coming down with degenerative diseases at earlier ages than ever before, and I am convinced that poor food choices are a contributing factor. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I'd hate to not go down this road now and find out 20 years from now that it would have made a difference.

barb kolb

John and Steven you are both right, you can't just pick out one piece of fruit or a vegetable and make a blanket statement about organic vs. non-organic. But you have to start somewhere. Our bodies are already subjected to hundreds of toxins we can not control, but when picking our food and water we can make better choices. I have a few friends that feel like it's a losing battle so why bother to try, but I would rather take the approach that I will try to control what I can. I am fortunate enough that I can afford to choose safer and sometimes more expensive brands of body lotion, deoderant and shampoo. And I try to do the same with the food and water I serve my family. Maybe I'm just hedging my bet. But there seems to be so many people coming down with degenerative diseases at earlier ages than ever before, and I am convinced that poor food choices are a contributing factor. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I'd hate to not go down this road now and find out 20 years from now that it would have made a difference.

Nick Khilling

You people who disagree with going organic are truly ignorant people. You are missing the point completely. The difference in taste isn't even the most important concept here. You talk about how the usda says their is no evidence to support organic foods being better than non-organic. 99.9% of herbs and botanicals are not approved by the fda...does this mean they don't work. Please, quit spreading your ignorance....if you want to continue down this path..great. Don't try and persuade people otherwise until you actually have some REAL evidence to support it.

Faheem

hav u got a non-organic vs organicv table

Mattyp

To me it sounds like organic is the closest way we have to going natural. So its gotta be better for you than non-organic. Plus we know that organic has not been striped of its nutruients, and if any chemicals, at all have been added, it's minimal. The phrase you are what you eat holds its meaning.

Pina

My dad just started eating organic because someone mentioned that this will lower his blood pressure, lower his HIGH cholestrerol and fight off cancer. If this was true wouldn't everyone be buying organic. Plus the prices are ridiculos?

Jen

There are organic peanut butters that stay mixed. Shop around.

I can say that after eating primarily nonorganic and then going to about 85% organic and detoxing my body, I feel younger than ever. No lie.

I also juice veggies on a regular basis, try to stay away from wheat products (not entirely), eat very little processed foods with preservatives, MSG, etc, ...basically, I eat mostly whole foods. I stay clear of parabins found in shampoos & conditioner, propylene glycol found in just about every hygeine product, chemical preservatives.

This life style change changed my life for the better.

I am not dogmatic about it when I am away from home, but at home I'm organic.

Jen

One more thing.

Cancers and disease thrive in and acidic environment, period. Check it out, the research is there.

Pesticide, herbicide, prescription drugs, sugar-substitute, refined sugar, carbonated drinks...are ALL extremely acidic.

http://www.keytohealthclinic.com/alkalinediet.html

http://www.canceractive.com/page.php?n=1025

Do your own research!!

I hope this helps educate people as to the importance of a clean food supply. There is no coincidence to the increased rate of DISEASE in America. Not at all.

jasmine

i dont have much to add to your comments about organic vs. non-organic, i am doing a school project on this, so i just randomly got here. but reading all of your guys' comments on it really got me thinking about my project more, and the whole organic or non subject. i do agree with some of u on different things some from the organic side and non-organic, i would write more if i didn't have to go back to grade nine lol.

jamie

I am writing a paper on organic vs. inorganic and the stuff i have been reading about inorganic farming i strongly disagree with. i live on and work on a nonorganic farm and can tell you don't believe everything bad you hear. the growth hormones found in milk are naturally there in the first place whether a farmer decides to enhance them or not. the antibiotics farmers use are for the health of the animals and while they are on antibiotics their milk is put in with the rest to be sold to the public. our cows are happy and we take good care of them. to be considered organic they can not treat their sick animals which is a cruel thing. and also organic foods can be hazardous to peoples health due to the farmers not being able to use pesticides to kill certain things. and organic peanut butter can eventually cause cancer due to the mycotoxins in the peanuts from the farmers not being able to spray them. and for all the people who have been eating nonorganic for their whole lives why is something not wrong with them if the foods are so bad?

dd

well i personally believe that organic food is much nicer. i love organic bread n butter. but if you really have the time get your own veggi patch in the garden. let the sun do the work. dont go using plant growth or anything like that otherwise it wouldnt be organic.

and that then will solve your expenses as growing your own veg is a lot cheaper than suppermarkets. it is time consuming. but once you get a cycle going you will be fine.

you will need to freeze your stock as you go along too.

otherwise its put up with the prices. remember that it is only this high because so much dedication is put into the food to ensure that we have organic food.

i just hope that you guys recylce as much as you care about your food.

Blythe

So really, how Organic is better than Non-Organic has little to do with the pesticides I am eating or if it really does taste better or not....for me anyway. It has more to do with the problem in polluting our earth. It may be a small percentage of chemicals that we actually eat from it being on the fruits and veggies, but the amount of chemicals going into the earth and into our water sources, is gastly. Espesially because farmers tend to have the "better safe than sorry" approch on things and tend to put more chemicals than really needed on thier crops just to be safe. And I bet you can guess where ALL THOSE CHEMICALS go. So if you think you aren't harming anything by being a Non-Organic farmer, rethink it. You truely are oblivious to the world around you and what is going on. I am not trying to put down Non-Organic farmers. Everyone has to make a living somehow, I am aware of this fact. I am simply trying to get you to open your eyes to the "Bigger Picture". Thank you for taking the time to read my opinion. I wish the best for everyone! (including the Non-Organic growers *smile*)

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